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November 12, 2025 Score: 14 Rep: 9,011 Quality: Expert Completeness: 50%

Yes, in the US it's mostly against the law. From https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/docs/volunteers.asp:

"Under the FLSA, employees may not volunteer services to for-profit private sector employers. On the other hand, in the vast majority of circumstances, individuals can volunteer services to public sector employers. When Congress amended the FLSA in 1985, it made clear that people are allowed to volunteer their services to public agencies and their community with but one exception - public sector employers may not allow their employees to volunteer, without compensation, additional time to do the same work for which they are employed. There is no prohibition on anyone employed in the private sector from volunteering in any capacity or line of work in the public sector. "

THere's good reason for this. First off, if volunteering was allowed, the company could basically force you to "volunteer" under threat or reprisal, which is an obvious end run around labor laws. Secondly, if it was allowed you as an employee could later claim you didn't volunteer setting them up for legal liability. The easiest way to prevent this is that the FLSA does- volunteering is not allowed.

So yeah, you were fired not just for time management issues, but because you put them in a vulnerable position where they could be sued at a later date.

November 12, 2025 Score: 5 Rep: 76,768 Quality: Medium Completeness: 50%

I worked in a position where, to accomplish every duty assigned but with a limit of 40 hours, I ended up taking work home or punching-out then remaining on site, and working off the clock.

I am under the impression that it is illegal for my employer to ask me to do that, but not illegal if I volunteer to do it of my own volition.

Is that correct? Or was I breaking a law or causing them to?

The employer has several concerns, they all might not apply to your situation but they are still concerns.

  • You are taking work materials home. This could be a big problem if it is lost, damaged or stolen. In fact they may think you are the one stealing it.
  • You are staying on site at times when you are not supposed to be there. That could open them up to problems if you get hurt or damage something.
  • Being in the office when others aren't, is a sign of an insider threat. They will want to know what you are doing.
  • They can be concerned that you are not a good worker, if you can't do your job in 40 hours a week.
  • If you are working a US government contract it is a violation of contracting law for you to not correctly submit your time cards. Overcharging and undercharging are both violations.
  • Once the company knows, they have to stop you from working those hours or they will have to pay you according to your contract or labor laws.
November 12, 2025 Score: 2 Rep: 7,122 Quality: Low Completeness: 20%

What is the difference between you volunteering to do work for a company off the clock of your own volition... And you 'volunteering' to do work for a company off the clock of your own 'volition' (IE under duress of losing your job...).

From an outsiders perspective, its really hard for to tell which of those statements is true. And historically speaking the second one is the reality more often than the 2nd one. Which is why your employer ends up in the same legal trouble even if it is voluntary.

November 18, 2025 Score: 2 Rep: 173,516 Quality: Low Completeness: 10%

If you are a truck driver, bus driver, pilot etc., there may be laws that limit your daily or weekly working hours or a combination. Say there is a legal limit of 8 hours driving every day. If you enjoy driving so much that you drive ten hours a day, then you break the law, and your company may be breaking the law by not stopping you.

And of course doing things intentionally and without being ordered that could put your company at a legal risk will put your employment at risk.

November 12, 2025 Score: 0 Rep: 17,491 Quality: Medium Completeness: 30%

Your purpose for asking is not very clear.

You have been asked to resign for poor time management. An employer might do this not because they object to the principle of your working off the clock, but because they believe it is a sign in your particular case of gross inefficiency and/or incompetency.

For workers who can do at least some of their duties away from the workplace, it seems impossible for employers to prevent voluntary working.

But many jurisdictions have laws that effectively require employers to record attendance, and many employers will have additional policies and practices.

Punching out before your attendance has finished is ultimately a false entry, and it could well be a disciplinary matter if the actual intention is to falsify records.

Laws may also require the employer not to accept "voluntary" work in cases where they could reasonably detect that they are receiving this, such as when it is happening on their premises, or when the workload assigned must obviously require additional work.

Beyond this, it's difficult to imagine that the worker can commit any criminal offence through voluntary work, and the employer is likely only to be regulated when they are not remunerating the work or when they are failing to reasonably control it.

November 11, 2025 Score: -8 Rep: 50,227 Quality: Medium Completeness: 50%

Even in countries with very strict and stringent worker protections, I think you would be hard-pressed to find one where working off the clock was explicitly illegal of your own choice (except things like Trucking or other industries that have legally required breaks).

However - I don't think this is really a Legal question.

You were working more than your 40 hours (of your own free will) and were asked to resign over time management issues.

I think this statement is the real issue:

Whilst we can't know specifically what your employer is thinking - I want to add some thoughts:

Imagine an industry with a well known time-frame for completing a standard task - let's say changing brake pads on a car for a Mechanic. Baring some major unforseen issues (bolts sheering or pre-existing mechanical damage) let's say that the industry standard is 1 hour for changing them (figures pulled from air).

If you are taking 3 hours to change them, but 'Don't worry Boss, I will just catch up in my own time' - whilst one could say that is admirable on one level - it presents the company with some problems:

  • If you aren't able to complete a standard task within the expected timeframe, are you capable of doing your job?
  • What if you get burned out?
  • What if the option to complete after-hours is not an option because they need it that day

Different companies have got different views on Time Management, but it seems to me that the issue for the company was that you completing work in your own time doesn't work for them.

Rather than it being a legal issue.